Comments on: The New Atheism by Kevin Beck http://boldgrace.com/2007/07/23/the-new-atheism-by-kevin-beck/ It's more wonderful than you can imagine! Sat, 22 Nov 2008 06:40:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2 By: Cliff http://boldgrace.com/2007/07/23/the-new-atheism-by-kevin-beck/#comment-3744 Cliff Fri, 10 Oct 2008 21:33:53 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2007/07/23/the-new-atheism-by-kevin-beck/#comment-3744 Sue, I think you will find that there are a great deal of people who are coming to this awesome understanding of grace. Kevin Beck is one of those and he is currently coming out with a new book. I will be reviewing it and sharing my comments on this site. Sue, I think you will find that there are a great deal of people who are coming to this awesome understanding of grace. Kevin Beck is one of those and he is currently coming out with a new book. I will be reviewing it and sharing my comments on this site.

]]> By: SUE http://boldgrace.com/2007/07/23/the-new-atheism-by-kevin-beck/#comment-3743 SUE Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:38:54 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2007/07/23/the-new-atheism-by-kevin-beck/#comment-3743 WOW! What fun reading! Last post was over 1 year ago, where is everybody? Where are these gatherings held? Because he first loved us - Sue WOW! What fun reading! Last post was over 1 year ago, where is everybody? Where are these gatherings held? Because he first loved us - Sue

]]> By: Pam http://boldgrace.com/2007/07/23/the-new-atheism-by-kevin-beck/#comment-352 Pam Sat, 28 Jul 2007 05:07:13 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2007/07/23/the-new-atheism-by-kevin-beck/#comment-352 It is God's goodness that brings us to repentance. He contrasts sharply against what many of us know in the world or that is what it was like for me. Pam It is God’s goodness that brings us to repentance. He contrasts sharply against what many of us know in the world or that is what it was like for me.

Pam

]]> By: Steve http://boldgrace.com/2007/07/23/the-new-atheism-by-kevin-beck/#comment-351 Steve Fri, 27 Jul 2007 17:10:53 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2007/07/23/the-new-atheism-by-kevin-beck/#comment-351 <p>Many times I have heard "good preachers" defined as those who preach "hell fire and brimstone".</p> <p>If I were asked by these "good preachers" if I believe in their God I might well respond that no I don't. As far as their view of God I guess that I too am an atheist. But as a result of the gift of the faith of Christ, I do believe in a God of bold extravagant grace. I no longer can believe in Him being otherwise.</p> <p>There is a measure of that faith given to us all I think and I am finding that the view of God as unconditionally loving and forgiving provides so much more of what causes that seed to grow in others.</p>God truly gives only good gifts. Many times I have heard “good preachers” defined as those who preach “hell fire and brimstone”.

If I were asked by these “good preachers” if I believe in their God I might well respond that no I don’t. As far as their view of God I guess that I too am an atheist. But as a result of the gift of the faith of Christ, I do believe in a God of bold extravagant grace. I no longer can believe in Him being otherwise.

There is a measure of that faith given to us all I think and I am finding that the view of God as unconditionally loving and forgiving provides so much more of what causes that seed to grow in others.

God truly gives only good gifts.

]]> By: Pam http://boldgrace.com/2007/07/23/the-new-atheism-by-kevin-beck/#comment-348 Pam Thu, 26 Jul 2007 19:50:11 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2007/07/23/the-new-atheism-by-kevin-beck/#comment-348 Kevin, We can only give one another our condensed view and that is probably what makes it so important for us all to share how we view God. None of us can fully understand Him in this lifetime but together our view is made more complete and all the completeness of us all is held in Jesus. In that single name, in His holy person, lies all that I believe and know of God and truly, He is enough. There is nothing to add. There is healing in His wings and I know He will heal your friends in His time. I pray that they may be comforted by the knowledge of His presense. Pam Kevin,

We can only give one another our condensed view and that is probably what makes it so important for us all to share how we view God. None of us can fully understand Him in this lifetime but together our view is made more complete and all the completeness of us all is held in Jesus. In that single name, in His holy person, lies all that I believe and know of God and truly, He is enough. There is nothing to add.

There is healing in His wings and I know He will heal your friends in His time. I pray that they may be comforted by the knowledge of His presense.

Pam

]]> By: kevin beck http://boldgrace.com/2007/07/23/the-new-atheism-by-kevin-beck/#comment-346 kevin beck Thu, 26 Jul 2007 16:18:53 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2007/07/23/the-new-atheism-by-kevin-beck/#comment-346 Hi all, Great conversation. And thanks for the guys here at BG for posting my stuff. JP, Thank you for your comments and gentle but straightforward reminder. I have no doubt that most people who hold to a view of God as someone who sends billions of people to eternal torture who not label God as angry or removed. I used to be one of those people. I preached every week, telling people that they must "obey the gospel" in order to accept God's love. On my article, I am drawing from my experience. As I look back at what I believed and how I felt and thought about God, I now see that I did believe God to be angry and removed. I know a lot of people who felt and feel the same way. I'm thrilled that you're not one of them. I was. Also, as you know we're all somewhat blind to ourselves. Back then I didn't see God as angry. However, that speaks more to my awareness of myself than to the reality of my view. I hope that makes some sense. Hi Pam, Thanks for your kind words. I agree that our ideas (superstitions as you put it) about God shape our view of God. You and I see things a little differently, as I would say that God has already eliminated the death/separation that sin caused. That "gap" is gone. Physical death, as I see it, is not a manifestation/result/punishment of sin. Death, in a biological sense, can actually be generative. In other words, death actually comes before life. At least that's my VERY condensed view. I have a conference talk soon to be released that explores this at length. Thanks everyone for sharing. I feel very blessed. Also, please keep two friends of mine in your prayers. They were in a motorcycle accident earlies this week, and one is still in the hospital. The healing process may take some time. Meanwhile, I'll be on the road to visit them. Thanks. Kevin Hi all,
Great conversation. And thanks for the guys here at BG for posting my stuff.

JP,
Thank you for your comments and gentle but straightforward reminder. I have no doubt that most people who hold to a view of God as someone who sends billions of people to eternal torture who not label God as angry or removed. I used to be one of those people. I preached every week, telling people that they must “obey the gospel” in order to accept God’s love. On my article, I am drawing from my experience. As I look back at what I believed and how I felt and thought about God, I now see that I did believe God to be angry and removed. I know a lot of people who felt and feel the same way. I’m thrilled that you’re not one of them. I was. Also, as you know we’re all somewhat blind to ourselves. Back then I didn’t see God as angry. However, that speaks more to my awareness of myself than to the reality of my view. I hope that makes some sense.

Hi Pam,
Thanks for your kind words. I agree that our ideas (superstitions as you put it) about God shape our view of God. You and I see things a little differently, as I would say that God has already eliminated the death/separation that sin caused. That “gap” is gone. Physical death, as I see it, is not a manifestation/result/punishment of sin. Death, in a biological sense, can actually be generative. In other words, death actually comes before life. At least that’s my VERY condensed view. I have a conference talk soon to be released that explores this at length.

Thanks everyone for sharing. I feel very blessed. Also, please keep two friends of mine in your prayers. They were in a motorcycle accident earlies this week, and one is still in the hospital. The healing process may take some time. Meanwhile, I’ll be on the road to visit them. Thanks.

Kevin

]]> By: kenneth http://boldgrace.com/2007/07/23/the-new-atheism-by-kevin-beck/#comment-342 kenneth Thu, 26 Jul 2007 00:09:40 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2007/07/23/the-new-atheism-by-kevin-beck/#comment-342 "Now" that's sisters to be proud of. Forgetting about us all men. Ha!Ha! You are both gems. kenneth. “Now” that’s sisters to be proud of. Forgetting about us all men. Ha!Ha! You are both gems.
kenneth.

]]> By: Pam http://boldgrace.com/2007/07/23/the-new-atheism-by-kevin-beck/#comment-341 Pam Wed, 25 Jul 2007 19:18:11 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2007/07/23/the-new-atheism-by-kevin-beck/#comment-341 Yum!!*******tears mixed with smiles*******Through you, I have been greatly blessed! Yum!!*******tears mixed with smiles*******Through you, I have been greatly blessed!

]]> By: Mindy http://boldgrace.com/2007/07/23/the-new-atheism-by-kevin-beck/#comment-340 Mindy Wed, 25 Jul 2007 18:36:40 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2007/07/23/the-new-atheism-by-kevin-beck/#comment-340 A strong Woman vs A Woman of strength I just have to post one last thing. This one is for me and Pam :) A strong woman isn't afraid of anything... but A woman of strength shows courage in the midst of her fear... A strong woman won't let anyone get the best of her... but A woman of strength gives the best of her to everyone... A strong woman makes mistakes and avoids the same in the future... A woman of strength realizes life's mistakes can also be God's blessings and capitalizes on them... A strong woman walks sure footedly... but A woman of strength knows God will catch her when she falls... A strong woman wears the look of confidence on her face... but A woman of strength wears grace... A strong woman has faith that she is strong enough for the journey... but A woman of strength has faith that it is in the journey that she will become strong... A strong Woman vs A Woman of strength

I just have to post one last thing. This one is for me and Pam :)

A strong woman
isn’t afraid of anything…
but

A woman of strength
shows courage in the midst of her fear…

A strong woman
won’t let anyone get the best of her…
but

A woman of strength
gives the best of her to everyone…

A strong woman
makes mistakes and avoids the same in the future…

A woman of strength
realizes life’s mistakes can also be God’s blessings and capitalizes on them…

A strong woman
walks sure footedly…
but

A woman of strength
knows God will catch her when she falls…

A strong woman
wears the look of confidence on her face…
but

A woman of strength
wears grace…

A strong woman
has faith that she is strong enough for the journey…
but

A woman of strength
has faith that it is in the journey that she will become strong…

]]> By: Pam http://boldgrace.com/2007/07/23/the-new-atheism-by-kevin-beck/#comment-339 Pam Wed, 25 Jul 2007 17:44:51 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2007/07/23/the-new-atheism-by-kevin-beck/#comment-339 LOL! I don't think that is a struggle, honey, that is a strength.:0) Pam LOL! I don’t think that is a struggle, honey, that is a strength.:0)

Pam

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