Comments on: What’s left for ME? http://boldgrace.com/2007/10/26/whats-left-for-me/ It's more wonderful than you can imagine! Sat, 22 Nov 2008 04:33:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2 By: Cliff http://boldgrace.com/2007/10/26/whats-left-for-me/#comment-1211 Cliff Tue, 30 Oct 2007 23:17:46 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2007/10/26/whats-left-for-me/#comment-1211 Nancy, I don't ever think I will see myself as a pastor again, but what I do see I like and when I look in the mirror I am beginning to see why God Loves me so much. Jimmy, You are right about hatred, it has it's place in our lives and how we deal with it is the key knowing that every step of the way we are always loved by our PEFECT GOD. Nancy, I don’t ever think I will see myself as a pastor again, but what I do see I like and when I look in the mirror I am beginning to see why God Loves me so much.

Jimmy, You are right about hatred, it has it’s place in our lives and how we deal with it is the key knowing that every step of the way we are always loved by our PEFECT GOD.

]]> By: Jimmy http://boldgrace.com/2007/10/26/whats-left-for-me/#comment-1209 Jimmy Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:17:34 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2007/10/26/whats-left-for-me/#comment-1209 Hi Big guy Hang in there youll do ok as you know ive tasted hatred also but it is how we deal with it. use it , and make it work as a good thing In one of our talks I sayed some well placeed hate was good for you. it helps keeps things in order. thinking of you JIMMY Hi Big guy
Hang in there youll do ok as you know ive tasted hatred also but it is how we deal with it. use it , and make it work as a good thing In one of our talks I sayed some well placeed hate was good for you. it helps keeps things in order.
thinking of you
JIMMY

]]> By: Nancy in San Antnio http://boldgrace.com/2007/10/26/whats-left-for-me/#comment-1208 Nancy in San Antnio Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:17:03 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2007/10/26/whats-left-for-me/#comment-1208 Oh Cliff, beautiful.... just think, although you don't necessarily minister to "church folk" any longer, you are still a minister! And a damn good one if I must say so myself. Shalom, Nancy Oh Cliff, beautiful…. just think, although you don’t necessarily
minister to “church folk” any longer, you are still a minister!
And a damn good one if I must say so myself.
Shalom, Nancy

]]> By: Cliff http://boldgrace.com/2007/10/26/whats-left-for-me/#comment-1200 Cliff Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:53:20 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2007/10/26/whats-left-for-me/#comment-1200 Mindy, You are my SUNSHINE!!!!! Kenneth, He truly is a friend to us all. Mindy, You are my SUNSHINE!!!!!

Kenneth, He truly is a friend to us all.

]]> By: kenneth http://boldgrace.com/2007/10/26/whats-left-for-me/#comment-1199 kenneth Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:48:34 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2007/10/26/whats-left-for-me/#comment-1199 Yes cliff, loved and accepted without performance. Our performance that is. No more gult trips no more insurcurity, no more in and out of fellowship, Jesus said that he called us all his friends. He is indeed a friend who sticks closer than a brother. Accepted in the beloved forever. kenneth. Yes cliff, loved and accepted without performance. Our performance that is. No more gult trips no more insurcurity, no more in and out of fellowship, Jesus said that he called us all his friends. He is indeed a friend who sticks closer than a brother. Accepted in the beloved forever.
kenneth.

]]> By: Mindy http://boldgrace.com/2007/10/26/whats-left-for-me/#comment-1198 Mindy Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:32:14 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2007/10/26/whats-left-for-me/#comment-1198 The best thing I have ever done was stop believing in religion and to not teach my child about God in Church, but teach her about God and what Jesus did on my own outside of church and I have raised this amazing little person to be such a loving and kind kid. In the beginning the pressure to raise her in church was awful. It was as if people automatically assumed my child would grow up and be this bad kid if she wasn't going to church. People can have such strong opinions, but the truth of the matter is I knew to teach from the heart and it has been the greatest gift I could ever give her and myself. The church doesn't teach that. The church will never be able to teach that and it is sad. I feel sorry for those who are missing out on Sunday afternoons with their families just enjoying the day rather then in a chapel feeling guilty judging others and needing to be forgiven. The best thing I have ever done was stop believing in religion and to not teach my child about God in Church, but teach her about God and what Jesus did on my own outside of church and I have raised this amazing little person to be such a loving and kind kid. In the beginning the pressure to raise her in church was awful. It was as if people automatically assumed my child would grow up and be this bad kid if she wasn’t going to church. People can have such strong opinions, but the truth of the matter is I knew to teach from the heart and it has been the greatest gift I could ever give her and myself. The church doesn’t teach that. The church will never be able to teach that and it is sad. I feel sorry for those who are missing out on Sunday afternoons with their families just enjoying the day rather then in a chapel feeling guilty judging others and needing to be forgiven.

]]> By: Cliff http://boldgrace.com/2007/10/26/whats-left-for-me/#comment-1197 Cliff Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:30:16 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2007/10/26/whats-left-for-me/#comment-1197 So TRUE, Don R So TRUE, Don R

]]> By: Don R http://boldgrace.com/2007/10/26/whats-left-for-me/#comment-1196 Don R Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:14:12 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2007/10/26/whats-left-for-me/#comment-1196 "The church teaches if we give into to our humanness that God will reject us unless we repent" How could God, who made created us as we are, reject us for being human? The truth is, God doesn't. God loves the whole of creation including us. When will we learn God is a part of us and God cannot reject what is a part of Himself. “The church teaches if we give into to our humanness that God will reject us unless we repent”

How could God, who made created us as we are, reject us for being human? The truth is, God doesn’t. God loves the whole of creation including us. When will we learn God is a part of us and God cannot reject what is a part of Himself.

]]> By: Cliff http://boldgrace.com/2007/10/26/whats-left-for-me/#comment-1189 Cliff Mon, 29 Oct 2007 01:08:04 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2007/10/26/whats-left-for-me/#comment-1189 I am grateful for your thoughts on this Roy. We each have to walk our own path but the final destination is never in doubt. I am grateful for your thoughts on this Roy. We each have to walk our own path but the final destination is never in doubt.

]]> By: Roy http://boldgrace.com/2007/10/26/whats-left-for-me/#comment-1186 Roy Mon, 29 Oct 2007 00:31:55 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2007/10/26/whats-left-for-me/#comment-1186 I find it very interesting to read what Cliff says....having just left the "church system" and what Don says...still being "in the church system". I guess this is a battle for all of us, to leave the comfortable system which is likely one of the hardest things there is to do. I look back at perhaps 8 or so years ago when I left that system because of being so dissatisfied with it and not having any problem leaving it at all. I didn't really understand at the time why my dissatisfaction with the "system" was so strong but I see it quite clearly now. I guess this is simply because I am not, nor was I a pastor/teacher in this system so the only thing for me to leave was a place where the Gospel was not taught/preached and I knew there was something totally off with what I was hearing. It did take a few years for me to see what the problem was, and still is, but seeing the Gospel of Grace and Peace has made me realize that the church system as we know it is a false system. This is something that only God can show us. It is obviously something that we fight tooth and nail because of the pattern that we have been taught all our lives. When the fighting stops and we see what this is all about, then peace can come to our hearts. I have stopped fighting it.......I can see somewhat clearly now, at least more clearly than I have ever seen and as the light gets brighter and brighter, all other things fade away and peace comes to my heart. Have I arrived??? Absolutely not!!! But I am seeing and understanding what He did on the cross more and more as the days go on. We have to realize that those out there who do not see this redemption in its proper way will fight it very strongly as that is what they have been taught the same way we were taught it. One thing to remember is that it is all about Him. We had no part in this redemption and we have no part in convincing people of this truth, except sharing it with who ever will listen and leaving the "convincing" part to the Holy Spirit Who is the great teacher. We are all on a journey that takes different paths and it is harder for some than others to see this redemption. But the end result is the same.....God sent His Son to redeem the entire human race...and He did what He came to do. It is finished. I rest in that. I find it very interesting to read what Cliff says….having just left the “church system” and what Don says…still being “in the church system”. I guess this is a battle for all of us, to leave the comfortable system which is likely one of the hardest things there is to do.

I look back at perhaps 8 or so years ago when I left that system because of being so dissatisfied with it and not having any problem leaving it at all. I didn’t really understand at the time why my dissatisfaction with the “system” was so strong but I see it quite clearly now. I guess this is simply because I am not, nor was I a pastor/teacher in this system so the only thing for me to leave was a place where the Gospel was not taught/preached and I knew there was something totally off with what I was hearing.

It did take a few years for me to see what the problem was, and still is, but seeing the Gospel of Grace and Peace has made me realize that the church system as we know it is a false system. This is something that only God can show us. It is obviously something that we fight tooth and nail because of the pattern that we have been taught all our lives. When the fighting stops and we see what this is all about, then peace can come to our hearts.

I have stopped fighting it…….I can see somewhat clearly now, at least more clearly than I have ever seen and as the light gets brighter and brighter, all other things fade away and peace comes to my heart. Have I arrived??? Absolutely not!!! But I am seeing and understanding what He did on the cross more and more as the days go on. We have to realize that those out there who do not see this redemption in its proper way will fight it very strongly as that is what they have been taught the same way we were taught it.

One thing to remember is that it is all about Him. We had no part in this redemption and we have no part in convincing people of this truth, except sharing it with who ever will listen and leaving the “convincing” part to the Holy Spirit Who is the great teacher.

We are all on a journey that takes different paths and it is harder for some than others to see this redemption. But the end result is the same…..God sent His Son to redeem the entire human race…and He did what He came to do. It is finished. I rest in that.

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