Comments on: I Still Love The Counsel of God! http://boldgrace.com/2007/10/30/i-still-love-the-counsel-of-god/ It's more wonderful than you can imagine! Sat, 22 Nov 2008 04:18:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2 By: Nancy in San Antonio http://boldgrace.com/2007/10/30/i-still-love-the-counsel-of-god/#comment-1229 Nancy in San Antonio Fri, 02 Nov 2007 00:11:30 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2007/10/30/i-still-love-the-counsel-of-god/#comment-1229 Thank you, thank you, Cliff & Shelly... I will definitely use both of your comments, and if anybody else has something to say, bring it on! I appreciate it..... Shalom, Nancy Thank you, thank you, Cliff & Shelly… I will definitely use both of your comments, and if anybody else has something to say, bring it on! I appreciate it…..
Shalom, Nancy

]]> By: Cliff http://boldgrace.com/2007/10/30/i-still-love-the-counsel-of-god/#comment-1228 Cliff Thu, 01 Nov 2007 23:05:39 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2007/10/30/i-still-love-the-counsel-of-god/#comment-1228 Nancy, The following verses make it very clear that where ever we find ourselves to be HE is there. Ps 139:7-12 7 Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence? 8 If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there. 9 If I take the wings of the morning, and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea; 10 Even there shall thy hand lead me, and thy right hand shall hold me. 11 If I say, Surely the darkness shall cover me; even the night shall be light about me. 12 Yea, the darkness hideth not from thee; but the night shineth as the day: the darkness and the light are both alike to thee. KJV Nancy,

The following verses make it very clear that where ever we find ourselves to be HE is there.

Ps 139:7-12
7 Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence?
8 If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.
9 If I take the wings of the morning, and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea;
10 Even there shall thy hand lead me, and thy right hand shall hold me.
11 If I say, Surely the darkness shall cover me; even the night shall be light about me.
12 Yea, the darkness hideth not from thee; but the night shineth as the day: the darkness and the light are both alike to thee.
KJV

]]> By: shelly http://boldgrace.com/2007/10/30/i-still-love-the-counsel-of-god/#comment-1225 shelly Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:20:03 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2007/10/30/i-still-love-the-counsel-of-god/#comment-1225 I have a comeback for him. ;) Ask him which "hell" he's talking about: Sheol/Hades/Tartarus (which all mean "the grave") or Gehenna (which used to be a landfill near Jerusalem but is now a garden)? If he's still adamant about eternal torment, quote John 10:10 and suggest that if ET is true, then God is no better than 'the thief' himself. I have a comeback for him. ;)

Ask him which “hell” he’s talking about: Sheol/Hades/Tartarus (which all mean “the grave”) or Gehenna (which used to be a landfill near Jerusalem but is now a garden)? If he’s still adamant about eternal torment, quote John 10:10 and suggest that if ET is true, then God is no better than ‘the thief’ himself.

]]> By: Nancy in San Antonio http://boldgrace.com/2007/10/30/i-still-love-the-counsel-of-god/#comment-1223 Nancy in San Antonio Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:01:16 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2007/10/30/i-still-love-the-counsel-of-god/#comment-1223 As always, great posts! And I didn't know how I could ask for help with this question, other than post on the comments. I posted the question below from the Ifs of Og blogspot(with due credit) on a yahoo group: If sinners were really going to exist in Hell forever, wouldn't that necessitate the eternal toleration of sin on God's part? An ET believer replied with this answer: Is Hell really hell because of the flames or the total absence of God's presence? If it is the latter, He has nothing to tolerate. I need a comeback for him, but I don't know what to say.... Somebody help! Please!! Shalom and thanks, Nancy As always, great posts! And I didn’t know how I could ask for help with this question, other than post on the comments.

I posted the question below from the Ifs of Og blogspot(with due credit) on a yahoo group:

If sinners were really going to exist in Hell forever, wouldn’t that
necessitate the eternal toleration of sin on God’s part?

An ET believer replied with this answer:

Is Hell really hell because of the flames or the total absence of God’s presence? If it is the latter, He has nothing to tolerate.

I need a comeback for him, but I don’t know what to say…. Somebody help!
Please!!
Shalom and thanks, Nancy

]]> By: Mindy http://boldgrace.com/2007/10/30/i-still-love-the-counsel-of-god/#comment-1220 Mindy Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:32:09 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2007/10/30/i-still-love-the-counsel-of-god/#comment-1220 This was an amazing post. Thank you soo much. I am free :) This was an amazing post. Thank you soo much.
I am free :)

]]> By: Cliff http://boldgrace.com/2007/10/30/i-still-love-the-counsel-of-god/#comment-1218 Cliff Wed, 31 Oct 2007 09:34:48 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2007/10/30/i-still-love-the-counsel-of-god/#comment-1218 Well said Don R. The counsel to "LOVE" is both our greatest treasure and our greatest challenge here on earth. Lisa, I no longer even it look at it as "obeying", but rather "Listening to the advice of a Very Good Friend", and a good friend always loves you weather you accept their advice or not. Well said Don R. The counsel to “LOVE” is both our greatest treasure and our greatest challenge here on earth.

Lisa, I no longer even it look at it as “obeying”, but rather “Listening to the advice of a Very Good Friend”, and a good friend always loves you weather you accept their advice or not.

]]> By: Lisa Perry http://boldgrace.com/2007/10/30/i-still-love-the-counsel-of-god/#comment-1217 Lisa Perry Wed, 31 Oct 2007 02:31:06 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2007/10/30/i-still-love-the-counsel-of-god/#comment-1217 Thanks for sharing this Cliff. This is awesome!! Once I realized that the "law" or commandments is simply there for my own personal benefit, not to keep me from having fun or enjoying life but rather so that my life may be more abundant because the One who made me knows what is best for me and that's the reason I want to be obedient to my Father today. It really has nothing to do with salvation for me anymore. I know I am saved because of what Jesus did for me. Praise His Name!!!!!!!!! Thanks for sharing this Cliff. This is awesome!! Once I realized that the “law” or commandments is simply there for my own personal benefit, not to keep me from having fun or enjoying life but rather so that my life may be more abundant because the One who made me knows what is best for me and that’s the reason I want to be obedient to my Father today. It really has nothing to do with salvation for me anymore. I know I am saved because of what Jesus did for me. Praise His Name!!!!!!!!!

]]> By: Don R http://boldgrace.com/2007/10/30/i-still-love-the-counsel-of-god/#comment-1216 Don R Wed, 31 Oct 2007 02:16:25 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2007/10/30/i-still-love-the-counsel-of-god/#comment-1216 Cliff- It seems to me that the whole counsel of God can be summed up quite well in the two precepts that Jesus left us with: 1.) Love the Lord, your God out of your whole heart, soul, comprehension, and strength. And the second is like the first: 2.) You shall be loving your associate as you love yourself. Looking at the first precept: How could we truly not love the one who gave us life; the one who inhabits our very spirit; the one who created all that is? How could we not love him? By not truly knowing who he is and knowing his true character, not the character often proffered to us from the pulpit. And the second precept: We ALL came from the same Source, God. We are ALL made up of the same "stuff"(our chemical makeup/DNA). We ALL have the spirit of God within. So, how could we not "love our neighbor"? By not understanding, not fully comprehending (as the first precept says) who our associate (neighbor) is ; By seeing our "neighbor" with eyes of flesh and not with the heart (the spirit, which is of God and is God). In loving your associate, you are truly loving the Source. Sometimes it is easy look at these two precepts and only see the words at the surface and not plumb the depths of them. There is a wealth of wisdom in these short verses. No other precepts are greater than these. I believe the whole counsel of God is here contained. Cliff-

It seems to me that the whole counsel of God can be summed up quite well in the two precepts that Jesus left us with:

1.) Love the Lord, your God out of your whole heart, soul, comprehension, and strength.

And the second is like the first:

2.) You shall be loving your associate as you love yourself.

Looking at the first precept: How could we truly not love the one who gave us life; the one who inhabits our very spirit; the one who created all that is? How could we not love him? By not truly knowing who he is and knowing his true character, not the character often proffered to us from the pulpit.

And the second precept: We ALL came from the same Source, God. We are ALL made up of the same “stuff”(our chemical makeup/DNA). We ALL have the spirit of God within. So, how could we not “love our neighbor”? By not understanding, not fully comprehending (as the first precept says) who our associate (neighbor) is ; By seeing our “neighbor” with eyes of flesh and not with the heart (the spirit, which is of God and is God). In loving your associate, you are truly loving the Source.

Sometimes it is easy look at these two precepts and only see the words at the surface and not plumb the depths of them. There is a wealth of wisdom in these short verses.

No other precepts are greater than these. I believe the whole counsel of God is here contained.

]]> By: Cliff http://boldgrace.com/2007/10/30/i-still-love-the-counsel-of-god/#comment-1215 Cliff Wed, 31 Oct 2007 00:59:59 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2007/10/30/i-still-love-the-counsel-of-god/#comment-1215 Bruce, What you said I fully understand and in fact I hear his voice more and more without ever opening up a book. Dan, Our hearts is where God always speaks to but religion tries to block his voice. Bruce, What you said I fully understand and in fact I hear his voice more and more without ever opening up a book.

Dan, Our hearts is where God always speaks to but religion tries to block his voice.

]]> By: dan http://boldgrace.com/2007/10/30/i-still-love-the-counsel-of-god/#comment-1214 dan Wed, 31 Oct 2007 00:44:28 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2007/10/30/i-still-love-the-counsel-of-god/#comment-1214 Cliff this truly spoke to my heart today.Many times when we read something over again we it see in a new light. I believe that the Father spoke to my heart and was truly encourage today, Love you brother Dan Cliff this truly spoke to my heart today.Many times when we read something over again we it see in a new light.
I believe that the Father spoke to my heart and was truly encourage today,
Love you brother Dan

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