Comments on: Right or Wrong http://boldgrace.com/2008/03/24/right-or-wrong/ It's more wonderful than you can imagine! Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:21:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2 By: Kiara http://boldgrace.com/2008/03/24/right-or-wrong/#comment-2275 Kiara Mon, 31 Mar 2008 14:16:07 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2008/03/24/right-or-wrong/#comment-2275 Thanks for the link Cliff. :) I get what you're saying. Most of us have been taught all our lives that God's love and wrath are somehow separate. I remember hearing from many preachers "Yeah God is a God of love but He is also a God of judgment." So I guess that means when God is just He is unloving and when He is loving He is unjust? I don't buy that. God does not have multiple personalities and He's the same forever. I'm working on trying to see the "judgment" verses in light of His love instead of the other way around like I've been used to doing for so long. Back to this topic,I've been a bit down going to church for the last two weeks. why does modern Christianity as a whole seem to fear doubt and uncertainty at times. The sermoms have been basically how Christians shouldn't have uncertainties and that if we really have the Holy Spirit the Bible will make sense. Well, if everything was so clear cut, why are there over 30,000 different interpretations? I don't have the "answers" like I used to think I did but strangely I feel more at peace in my uncertainty than I did in my former evangelical upbringing. Btw, John T, that's a great quote. Thanks for the link Cliff. :) I get what you’re saying. Most of us have been taught all our lives that God’s love and wrath are somehow separate. I remember hearing from many preachers “Yeah God is a God of love but He is also a God of judgment.” So I guess that means when God is just He is unloving and when He is loving He is unjust? I don’t buy that. God does not have multiple personalities and He’s the same forever. I’m working on trying to see the “judgment” verses in light of His love instead of the other way around like I’ve been used to doing for so long.

Back to this topic,I’ve been a bit down going to church for the last two weeks. why does modern Christianity as a whole seem to fear doubt and uncertainty at times. The sermoms have been basically how Christians shouldn’t have uncertainties and that if we really have the Holy Spirit the Bible will make sense. Well, if everything was so clear cut, why are there over 30,000 different interpretations? I don’t have the “answers” like I used to think I did but strangely I feel more at peace in my uncertainty than I did in my former evangelical upbringing.

Btw, John T, that’s a great quote.

]]> By: John T. http://boldgrace.com/2008/03/24/right-or-wrong/#comment-2274 John T. Sun, 30 Mar 2008 13:39:35 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2008/03/24/right-or-wrong/#comment-2274 Hello All Not sure if this has been posted or if it anyone knows it, but I find it is very useful. "Its not whether its right or wrong, but is it Wise." Hello All

Not sure if this has been posted or if it anyone knows it, but I find it is very useful.

“Its not whether its right or wrong, but is it Wise.”

]]> By: shelly http://boldgrace.com/2008/03/24/right-or-wrong/#comment-2273 shelly Fri, 28 Mar 2008 23:31:03 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2008/03/24/right-or-wrong/#comment-2273 I came across this verse while working on an essay about an entirely different subject... <i>For we see now through a dim window obscurely, but then face to face; now I know partially, but then I shall know according as I also have been known.</i> (1 Corinthians 13:12, Darby Translation) The Message puts it this way... <i>We don't yet see things clearly. We're squinting in a fog, peering through a mist. But it won't be long before the weather clears and the sun shines bright! We'll see it all then, see it all as clearly as God sees us, knowing him directly just as he knows us!</i> I came across this verse while working on an essay about an entirely different subject…

For we see now through a dim window obscurely, but then face to face; now I know partially, but then I shall know according as I also have been known. (1 Corinthians 13:12, Darby Translation)

The Message puts it this way…

We don’t yet see things clearly. We’re squinting in a fog, peering through a mist. But it won’t be long before the weather clears and the sun shines bright! We’ll see it all then, see it all as clearly as God sees us, knowing him directly just as he knows us!

]]> By: Cliff http://boldgrace.com/2008/03/24/right-or-wrong/#comment-2271 Cliff Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:28:47 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2008/03/24/right-or-wrong/#comment-2271 Kiara, Please check out the following post that may answer this question for you. http://boldgrace.com/2007/09/14/are-we-accountable/ Kiara, Please check out the following post that may answer this question for you. http://boldgrace.com/2007/09/14/are-we-accountable/

]]> By: Kiara http://boldgrace.com/2008/03/24/right-or-wrong/#comment-2270 Kiara Thu, 27 Mar 2008 14:04:10 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2008/03/24/right-or-wrong/#comment-2270 I have a question that's been confusing me. A lot of ppl say that God poured out all of His wrath at the cross. If that's true how come Paul tells believers in Romans and 1 Cor that we will all stand at the judgment seat of Christ? Do we ever get "punished" for any of our sins? Does the judgment that Paul was talking about happen now and not just after we die? I know love keeps no record of wrongs so I'm trying to put all this together. Thanks. I have a question that’s been confusing me. A lot of ppl say that God poured out all of His wrath at the cross. If that’s true how come Paul tells believers in Romans and 1 Cor that we will all stand at the judgment seat of Christ? Do we ever get “punished” for any of our sins? Does the judgment that Paul was talking about happen now and not just after we die? I know love keeps no record of wrongs so I’m trying to put all this together. Thanks.

]]> By: Michelle http://boldgrace.com/2008/03/24/right-or-wrong/#comment-2266 Michelle Thu, 27 Mar 2008 06:35:38 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2008/03/24/right-or-wrong/#comment-2266 Knowing that nothing is counted against me has made me feel much more confident in making wise choices instead of worrying if i am making the wrong choice or what the consequences may be. I was afraid of how i was going to raise my son all by myself. Now i am not afraid of the truth any longer no matter what the topic is! Knowing that nothing is counted against me has made me feel much more confident in making wise choices instead of worrying if i am making the wrong choice or what the consequences may be. I was afraid of how i was going to raise my son all by myself. Now i am not afraid of the truth any longer no matter what the topic is!

]]> By: Cliff http://boldgrace.com/2008/03/24/right-or-wrong/#comment-2264 Cliff Tue, 25 Mar 2008 17:16:09 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2008/03/24/right-or-wrong/#comment-2264 If we see life as a perfect process in which every single moment is teaching us what we need to learn then right or wrong has nothing to do with it. We will learn regardless of what choice we make today. On the other hand if you are still eating of that horrible tree that God said not to eat from then you will be caught up in a constant battle of good and evil. I really prefer the fruit from the tree of a PERFECT life. If we see life as a perfect process in which every single moment is teaching us what we need to learn then right or wrong has nothing to do with it. We will learn regardless of what choice we make today. On the other hand if you are still eating of that horrible tree that God said not to eat from then you will be caught up in a constant battle of good and evil. I really prefer the fruit from the tree of a PERFECT life.

]]> By: Jason http://boldgrace.com/2008/03/24/right-or-wrong/#comment-2263 Jason Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:46:26 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2008/03/24/right-or-wrong/#comment-2263 Most of the decisions I've made in my life that would have been considered "morally wrong" by the majority of people, have turned out to be my most valuable life lessons. So, I agree that it really is a waste of time to try to determine right vs. wrong. The "right" thing to do today is often the "wrong" thing to do tomorrow. Even what is beneficial is not constant. A warm coat is beneficial in a snow storm, but it won't do you a lot of good when you're in the desert, and what you really need is an air conditioner. Sorry, I'm rambling...... Most of the decisions I’ve made in my life that would have been considered “morally wrong” by the majority of people, have turned out to be my most valuable life lessons.

So, I agree that it really is a waste of time to try to determine right vs. wrong. The “right” thing to do today is often the “wrong” thing to do tomorrow. Even what is beneficial is not constant. A warm coat is beneficial in a snow storm, but it won’t do you a lot of good when you’re in the desert, and what you really need is an air conditioner.

Sorry, I’m rambling……

]]> By: Connie Lard http://boldgrace.com/2008/03/24/right-or-wrong/#comment-2262 Connie Lard Tue, 25 Mar 2008 15:57:48 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2008/03/24/right-or-wrong/#comment-2262 Kiara brings up a good point. Rather than looking back at something as a "bad" decision, it is less crippling to look at it as a "good" learning experience. That is the way I have taught my children to view their lives, and it is rewarding to see how freeing it is for them (as well as for me). As Kiara said, there are people who will try to use what they see as your "bad" decisions against you. I simply choose not to have them be a part of my life, if at all possible. Don't need that kind of negativity clouding my view. Kiara brings up a good point. Rather than looking back at something as a “bad” decision, it is less crippling to look at it as a “good” learning experience. That is the way I have taught my children to view their lives, and it is rewarding to see how freeing it is for them (as well as for me). As Kiara said, there are people who will try to use what they see as your “bad” decisions against you. I simply choose not to have them be a part of my life, if at all possible. Don’t need that kind of negativity clouding my view.

]]> By: Kiara http://boldgrace.com/2008/03/24/right-or-wrong/#comment-2261 Kiara Tue, 25 Mar 2008 14:44:42 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2008/03/24/right-or-wrong/#comment-2261 Wow! This post really spoke to me. After leaving a really bad relationship last year, I struggle to regain confidence in my decision making. You know how people will try to use bad decisions you've previously made against you. Speaking of this topic, not too long ago I read a weekly magazine article from a very well known evangelist. He basically said that the gospel was all about getting it right in this lifetime. I found that quite sad. How can any of us really be sure we have it "all right"? That's NOT good news at all. The gospel is about trusting the One who already got it right for us, not us getting it right. Wow! This post really spoke to me. After leaving a really bad relationship last year, I struggle to regain confidence in my decision making. You know how people will try to use bad decisions you’ve previously made against you.

Speaking of this topic, not too long ago I read a weekly magazine article from a very well known evangelist. He basically said that the gospel was all about getting it right in this lifetime. I found that quite sad. How can any of us really be sure we have it “all right”? That’s NOT good news at all. The gospel is about trusting the One who already got it right for us, not us getting it right.

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