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	<title>Comments on: It Might Surprise You To Know #1</title>
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	<description>It's more wonderful than you can imagine!</description>
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		<title>By: L Cope</title>
		<link>http://boldgrace.com/2008/06/22/it-might-surprise-you-to-know-1/#comment-3078</link>
		<author>L Cope</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Paul said, "world without end, AMEN!"

Good Post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Paul said, &#8220;world without end, AMEN!&#8221;</p>
<p>Good Post!</p>
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		<title>By: geo</title>
		<link>http://boldgrace.com/2008/06/22/it-might-surprise-you-to-know-1/#comment-3047</link>
		<author>geo</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 12:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also Julia saying that only the nice and good things you mention are the only things that display His Majesty is doing what Adam did in the garden. It is eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Man was never suppose to know the difference. ALL declares His Glory both the things you mentioned and the things I mentioned.

Peace
Geo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also Julia saying that only the nice and good things you mention are the only things that display His Majesty is doing what Adam did in the garden. It is eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Man was never suppose to know the difference. ALL declares His Glory both the things you mentioned and the things I mentioned.</p>
<p>Peace<br />
Geo</p>
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		<title>By: geo</title>
		<link>http://boldgrace.com/2008/06/22/it-might-surprise-you-to-know-1/#comment-3046</link>
		<author>geo</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 12:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julia
Just this, that The Bold Grace of God even reaches into those places and Redeemed those people without their belief or Good Works and to me it displays His Majesty in doing do. It displays an AL POWERFUL God who can do what NO MAN would EVER TO! 

Peace
Geo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julia<br />
Just this, that The Bold Grace of God even reaches into those places and Redeemed those people without their belief or Good Works and to me it displays His Majesty in doing do. It displays an AL POWERFUL God who can do what NO MAN would EVER TO! </p>
<p>Peace<br />
Geo</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
		<link>http://boldgrace.com/2008/06/22/it-might-surprise-you-to-know-1/#comment-3045</link>
		<author>Julia</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 12:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geo wrote:
“Geo, do you see the kingdom of God on earth today?” My answer is a resounding YES! The whole earth screams of His Glory and Majesty on a daily basis."
OK, I am with you here first off, because I would say yes I agree, but in agreeing I would be thinking of a sunrise, a sunset, a snowcapped mountain, a new born baby, the joy of falling in love, cultural diversity, people caring for one another etc...
BUT
What do you mean when you say His Glory and Majesty is seen in the wars, the killings, the rapes, the murders?
I don't get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geo wrote:<br />
“Geo, do you see the kingdom of God on earth today?” My answer is a resounding YES! The whole earth screams of His Glory and Majesty on a daily basis.&#8221;<br />
OK, I am with you here first off, because I would say yes I agree, but in agreeing I would be thinking of a sunrise, a sunset, a snowcapped mountain, a new born baby, the joy of falling in love, cultural diversity, people caring for one another etc&#8230;<br />
BUT<br />
What do you mean when you say His Glory and Majesty is seen in the wars, the killings, the rapes, the murders?<br />
I don&#8217;t get it.</p>
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		<title>By: John T.</title>
		<link>http://boldgrace.com/2008/06/22/it-might-surprise-you-to-know-1/#comment-3044</link>
		<author>John T.</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 03:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Born again


Id rather just Live...............</description>
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<p>Id rather just Live&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: shelly</title>
		<link>http://boldgrace.com/2008/06/22/it-might-surprise-you-to-know-1/#comment-3042</link>
		<author>shelly</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 03:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://boldgrace.com/2008/06/22/it-might-surprise-you-to-know-1/#comment-3042</guid>
		<description>&lt;i&gt;I was taught that the way a person is born again is they hear the message of the cross preached and they respond to it by saying some type of sinner’s prayer and accepting Jesus into their heart as personal Lord &#38; Savior. Now while that may sound reasonable could anyone tell me where to look to find such a belief?&lt;/i&gt;

So was I. Yet, of course, there is NOTHING in the Bible that says you have to do such a thing. That's something traditional Christianity conjured up for some reason. His grace and faith already did that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I was taught that the way a person is born again is they hear the message of the cross preached and they respond to it by saying some type of sinner’s prayer and accepting Jesus into their heart as personal Lord &amp; Savior. Now while that may sound reasonable could anyone tell me where to look to find such a belief?</i></p>
<p>So was I. Yet, of course, there is NOTHING in the Bible that says you have to do such a thing. That&#8217;s something traditional Christianity conjured up for some reason. His grace and faith already did that.</p>
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		<title>By: Cliff</title>
		<link>http://boldgrace.com/2008/06/22/it-might-surprise-you-to-know-1/#comment-3041</link>
		<author>Cliff</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 23:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geo,  All I can say to this is THANKYOU.  It is such a blessing to have you in my life and know we both enjoy such an unbelievable peace together.  I'm glad God has shown us both our brotherhood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geo,  All I can say to this is THANKYOU.  It is such a blessing to have you in my life and know we both enjoy such an unbelievable peace together.  I&#8217;m glad God has shown us both our brotherhood.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://boldgrace.com/2008/06/22/it-might-surprise-you-to-know-1/#comment-3040</link>
		<author>Don</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 19:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://boldgrace.com/2008/06/22/it-might-surprise-you-to-know-1/#comment-3040</guid>
		<description>"being born again is like the wind"

I love this phrase, having freed my mind from literalizing the scriptures I can embrace these words of the fully human Jesus in a brand new way, naturally being "born of the flesh" (you know its funny how religion looks at this so negatively) is simply that, a coming into this world through the seeds of mother and father (the traditional line of thinking is that the fathers seed is "planted" into the womb and the child is simply "housed" there, modern understanding accepts the fact the child is as much a product of the mother as is the father - the DNA of the child is from both mother and father, what I love about this is the barrier this breaks in the understanding of Jesus himself - he is a product of his birth mother as much as he was to his birth father)

As we consider Jesus' words of being born again, and that in order to see the kingdom of God one must go through this process - very relative term here, the spiritual birth he is referring to here is quite amazing really, especially in the context to the listeners of his day, their lives were ruled by the Torah (do good get good do bad get beat- Mike Williams phrase), the understanding of the Jews as Gods chosen so on and so forth, here is this "new thinker" Jesus from Nazareth talking about loving others and expressing this through ones life, think of the good Samaritan, remember is was the common way, the law even, for Jews to totally have nothing to do with these "half breed abominations", here is Jesus breaking the rules and telling stories of "good" Samaritans in the same broad stroke exposing the religiously minded self righteousness of some of his own (Jews)

Powerful stuff in context, and this is just one of many. I have come to understand the new birth as an experience, a very profound experience, enough so Jesus uses the term "one must be born again" to express it, he was simply calling out to those who would listen to experience the kingdom of God in a whole new way - one void of tribal identity, one void of considering oneself better than others or as "Gods chosen", one willing to love wastefully (the good Samaritan). Man I get all excited when I think about this stuff.
Peace out,

Don</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;being born again is like the wind&#8221;</p>
<p>I love this phrase, having freed my mind from literalizing the scriptures I can embrace these words of the fully human Jesus in a brand new way, naturally being &#8220;born of the flesh&#8221; (you know its funny how religion looks at this so negatively) is simply that, a coming into this world through the seeds of mother and father (the traditional line of thinking is that the fathers seed is &#8220;planted&#8221; into the womb and the child is simply &#8220;housed&#8221; there, modern understanding accepts the fact the child is as much a product of the mother as is the father - the DNA of the child is from both mother and father, what I love about this is the barrier this breaks in the understanding of Jesus himself - he is a product of his birth mother as much as he was to his birth father)</p>
<p>As we consider Jesus&#8217; words of being born again, and that in order to see the kingdom of God one must go through this process - very relative term here, the spiritual birth he is referring to here is quite amazing really, especially in the context to the listeners of his day, their lives were ruled by the Torah (do good get good do bad get beat- Mike Williams phrase), the understanding of the Jews as Gods chosen so on and so forth, here is this &#8220;new thinker&#8221; Jesus from Nazareth talking about loving others and expressing this through ones life, think of the good Samaritan, remember is was the common way, the law even, for Jews to totally have nothing to do with these &#8220;half breed abominations&#8221;, here is Jesus breaking the rules and telling stories of &#8220;good&#8221; Samaritans in the same broad stroke exposing the religiously minded self righteousness of some of his own (Jews)</p>
<p>Powerful stuff in context, and this is just one of many. I have come to understand the new birth as an experience, a very profound experience, enough so Jesus uses the term &#8220;one must be born again&#8221; to express it, he was simply calling out to those who would listen to experience the kingdom of God in a whole new way - one void of tribal identity, one void of considering oneself better than others or as &#8220;Gods chosen&#8221;, one willing to love wastefully (the good Samaritan). Man I get all excited when I think about this stuff.<br />
Peace out,</p>
<p>Don</p>
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		<title>By: geo</title>
		<link>http://boldgrace.com/2008/06/22/it-might-surprise-you-to-know-1/#comment-3038</link>
		<author>geo</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 12:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://boldgrace.com/2008/06/22/it-might-surprise-you-to-know-1/#comment-3038</guid>
		<description>Hi Connie
I am never sure if what I write makes sense to others as my ability to write what I think is poor. I just hope it is coherent? I know I tend to ramble and get off point in my writing and in my thoughts.

Thanks again for staying around and for all of your thoughts and comments here on Bold Grace.

Peace
Geo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Connie<br />
I am never sure if what I write makes sense to others as my ability to write what I think is poor. I just hope it is coherent? I know I tend to ramble and get off point in my writing and in my thoughts.</p>
<p>Thanks again for staying around and for all of your thoughts and comments here on Bold Grace.</p>
<p>Peace<br />
Geo</p>
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		<title>By: Connie Lard</title>
		<link>http://boldgrace.com/2008/06/22/it-might-surprise-you-to-know-1/#comment-3037</link>
		<author>Connie Lard</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 12:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Geo!  I appreciate your taking the time to explain this so clearly to me/us.  I am rather methodical by nature, and it is helpful to have things discussed in a point-by-point fashion like this.  Makes it more understandable for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Geo!  I appreciate your taking the time to explain this so clearly to me/us.  I am rather methodical by nature, and it is helpful to have things discussed in a point-by-point fashion like this.  Makes it more understandable for me.</p>
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