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		<title>By: shelly</title>
		<link>http://boldgrace.com/2008/06/23/it-might-surprise-you-to-know-2/#comment-3105</link>
		<author>shelly</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 04:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS: Methinks Bold Grace has its own mafia! ;) (Don in AZ, Don R., and now Don Marco. :D)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS: Methinks Bold Grace has its own mafia! <img src='http://boldgrace.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> (Don in AZ, Don R., and now Don Marco. :D)</p>
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		<title>By: Don R</title>
		<link>http://boldgrace.com/2008/06/23/it-might-surprise-you-to-know-2/#comment-3100</link>
		<author>Don R</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 03:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geo- Obviously, Don is a common name! I am the one in Texas and I will always sign: Don R</description>
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		<title>By: Cliff</title>
		<link>http://boldgrace.com/2008/06/23/it-might-surprise-you-to-know-2/#comment-3082</link>
		<author>Cliff</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is what I believe best describes the wide gate and the narrow gate:

Rom 5:18-19
18 Consequently, just as the result of one trespass was condemnation for all men, so also the result of one act of righteousness was justification that brings life for all men. 19 For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous. 

The wide gate is the gate we enter (partaking of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil) and all who enter that gate (and we all have) will find condemnation (destruction).  What is destroyed is our self image because we know through our own experiences that no matter how hard we try we can not discern good from evil much less live up to God's standard of good.

The narrow gate is the gate that can never be closed to any of us and after we have had enough of the destructive life (the wide gate) we will all find our way to the narrow gate that was made possible only by the obedience of the one man.  To enter this gate we will either on our own or be forced to leave behind ALL self righteousness and cling only to the free gift of righteousness which is Christ himself.  Anyone who trys to enter this gate claiming any right to by his/her beliefs or acts of righteousness will be turned away until the only thing left in them is the realization that one must enter the gate completely naked and free of everything except the awakened spirit of who they always were (made in His image).  Unfortunately for many this nakedness comes only at the removal of the flesh from the true self.

For some this will happen in the morning of life, for others it will happen in the afternoon of life, for some it will happen at the twilight of life, and some will enter this beautiful gate through the final destruction of the flesh.  But make no mistake, ALL WILL ENTER THROUGH THIS NARROW GATE EVENTUALLY.

Rom 11:32
32 For God has bound all men over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all. 

1 Tim 4:9-10
9 This is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance 10(and for this we labor and strive), that we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of all men , and especially of those who believe. 

Heb 2:8-9
In putting everything under him, God left nothing that is not subject to him. Yet at present we do not see everything subject to him. 9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels, now crowned with glory and honor because he suffered death, so that by the grace of God he might taste death for everyone. 

Isa 45:23-25
23 By myself I have sworn, my mouth has uttered in all integrity 
a word that will not be revoked: Before me every knee will bow;
by me every tongue will swear. 24 They will say of me, 'In the LORD alone 
are righteousness and strength. '"All who have raged against him 
will come to him and be put to shame. 25 But in the LORD all the descendants of Israel will be found righteous and will exult. 

Acts 10:28
28 He said to them: "You are well aware that it is against our law for a Jew to associate with a Gentile or visit him. But God has shown me that I should not call any man impure or unclean. 

When I say: "All Glory and Praise To God" I truly mean ALL.  

Peace To All Who Will Understand,

Cliff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is what I believe best describes the wide gate and the narrow gate:</p>
<p>Rom 5:18-19<br />
18 Consequently, just as the result of one trespass was condemnation for all men, so also the result of one act of righteousness was justification that brings life for all men. 19 For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous. </p>
<p>The wide gate is the gate we enter (partaking of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil) and all who enter that gate (and we all have) will find condemnation (destruction).  What is destroyed is our self image because we know through our own experiences that no matter how hard we try we can not discern good from evil much less live up to God&#8217;s standard of good.</p>
<p>The narrow gate is the gate that can never be closed to any of us and after we have had enough of the destructive life (the wide gate) we will all find our way to the narrow gate that was made possible only by the obedience of the one man.  To enter this gate we will either on our own or be forced to leave behind ALL self righteousness and cling only to the free gift of righteousness which is Christ himself.  Anyone who trys to enter this gate claiming any right to by his/her beliefs or acts of righteousness will be turned away until the only thing left in them is the realization that one must enter the gate completely naked and free of everything except the awakened spirit of who they always were (made in His image).  Unfortunately for many this nakedness comes only at the removal of the flesh from the true self.</p>
<p>For some this will happen in the morning of life, for others it will happen in the afternoon of life, for some it will happen at the twilight of life, and some will enter this beautiful gate through the final destruction of the flesh.  But make no mistake, ALL WILL ENTER THROUGH THIS NARROW GATE EVENTUALLY.</p>
<p>Rom 11:32<br />
32 For God has bound all men over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all. </p>
<p>1 Tim 4:9-10<br />
9 This is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance 10(and for this we labor and strive), that we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of all men , and especially of those who believe. </p>
<p>Heb 2:8-9<br />
In putting everything under him, God left nothing that is not subject to him. Yet at present we do not see everything subject to him. 9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels, now crowned with glory and honor because he suffered death, so that by the grace of God he might taste death for everyone. </p>
<p>Isa 45:23-25<br />
23 By myself I have sworn, my mouth has uttered in all integrity<br />
a word that will not be revoked: Before me every knee will bow;<br />
by me every tongue will swear. 24 They will say of me, &#8216;In the LORD alone<br />
are righteousness and strength. &#8216;&#8221;All who have raged against him<br />
will come to him and be put to shame. 25 But in the LORD all the descendants of Israel will be found righteous and will exult. </p>
<p>Acts 10:28<br />
28 He said to them: &#8220;You are well aware that it is against our law for a Jew to associate with a Gentile or visit him. But God has shown me that I should not call any man impure or unclean. </p>
<p>When I say: &#8220;All Glory and Praise To God&#8221; I truly mean ALL.  </p>
<p>Peace To All Who Will Understand,</p>
<p>Cliff</p>
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		<title>By: Connie Lard</title>
		<link>http://boldgrace.com/2008/06/23/it-might-surprise-you-to-know-2/#comment-3081</link>
		<author>Connie Lard</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi!  I am enjoying reading these explanations and accompanying comments.  My own take on the "narrow way" is that Jesus is simply describing that his Way is generally countercultural.  While most people may push and shove and shout in trying to get their own way (the "broad way"), those of us who are trying to follow his Way will approach life differently, more "grace"fully, without all the frenetic grasping to get our own way. 

 "Be still and and know that I am God."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi!  I am enjoying reading these explanations and accompanying comments.  My own take on the &#8220;narrow way&#8221; is that Jesus is simply describing that his Way is generally countercultural.  While most people may push and shove and shout in trying to get their own way (the &#8220;broad way&#8221;), those of us who are trying to follow his Way will approach life differently, more &#8220;grace&#8221;fully, without all the frenetic grasping to get our own way. </p>
<p> &#8220;Be still and and know that I am God.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy</title>
		<link>http://boldgrace.com/2008/06/23/it-might-surprise-you-to-know-2/#comment-3079</link>
		<author>Nancy</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Bruce!  Good to hear from you..
I would be glad to hear what you have to tell me.
I haven't thought of switching to any other user
but I do know how goofy 360 is for sure.
It's very moody (kind of like a woman) :) 
You can email me at icnohell@yahoo.com
Shalom, Nancy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Bruce!  Good to hear from you..<br />
I would be glad to hear what you have to tell me.<br />
I haven&#8217;t thought of switching to any other user<br />
but I do know how goofy 360 is for sure.<br />
It&#8217;s very moody (kind of like a woman) <img src='http://boldgrace.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
You can email me at <a href="mailto:icnohell@yahoo.com">icnohell@yahoo.com</a><br />
Shalom, Nancy</p>
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		<title>By: John T.</title>
		<link>http://boldgrace.com/2008/06/23/it-might-surprise-you-to-know-2/#comment-3077</link>
		<author>John T.</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 09:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marco

Look forward to the story. If you want send it to Tatsden@rogers.com

I understand what you mean about the good and bad days, though I still consider it a Bad day when it rains and I cant golf on my weekend off ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marco</p>
<p>Look forward to the story. If you want send it to <a href="mailto:Tatsden@rogers.com">Tatsden@rogers.com</a></p>
<p>I understand what you mean about the good and bad days, though I still consider it a Bad day when it rains and I cant golf on my weekend off <img src='http://boldgrace.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Marco</title>
		<link>http://boldgrace.com/2008/06/23/it-might-surprise-you-to-know-2/#comment-3076</link>
		<author>Marco</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 08:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I am not sure if it safe to say all peoples in all denominations are burning out on a road to destruction, many many are simply good folk whom are just doing what they believe is right. This goes for just about any religion and/or faith system, take your pick. Not everybody is straining to some mark of perfection, many are just wanting to be Christ like just like you. Real people. 

John T, don't sweat it, perhaps my wording could have been more precise and better explained. To be honest, I don't really consider days be good no bad, what might have seen bad at the time I reflect upon now and realize my response to said "bad days" is what helped mold me into who I am today, so there really are no bad days, because who would we really be without them? The same I can say for "good days". I am human, i cry, i laugh, i get pissed off, i eat unhealthy sometimes, i love and am learning to do so more wastefully, so on and so forth. I still want to share that Nee story with you later, powerful, hey have a good day ;)

Marco</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I am not sure if it safe to say all peoples in all denominations are burning out on a road to destruction, many many are simply good folk whom are just doing what they believe is right. This goes for just about any religion and/or faith system, take your pick. Not everybody is straining to some mark of perfection, many are just wanting to be Christ like just like you. Real people. </p>
<p>John T, don&#8217;t sweat it, perhaps my wording could have been more precise and better explained. To be honest, I don&#8217;t really consider days be good no bad, what might have seen bad at the time I reflect upon now and realize my response to said &#8220;bad days&#8221; is what helped mold me into who I am today, so there really are no bad days, because who would we really be without them? The same I can say for &#8220;good days&#8221;. I am human, i cry, i laugh, i get pissed off, i eat unhealthy sometimes, i love and am learning to do so more wastefully, so on and so forth. I still want to share that Nee story with you later, powerful, hey have a good day <img src='http://boldgrace.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Marco</p>
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		<title>By: shelly</title>
		<link>http://boldgrace.com/2008/06/23/it-might-surprise-you-to-know-2/#comment-3074</link>
		<author>shelly</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 05:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My take...

The "wide gate" represents organized Christianity (or, if you like, "Churchianity") that many people go through, it has a broad path (many different denominations, Catholic and Protestant), and leads to destruction (burn-out from trying to "do God's work" on Earth, or from straining to reach some mark of perfection that will never be obtained). On the other hand, the "narrow gate" represents simply following Christ, which has a straitened path (no denominations, just a yearning to be Christ-like), and only a few go down this road to find life ("joy unspeakable and full of glory", the "peace that passes all understanding").</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My take&#8230;</p>
<p>The &#8220;wide gate&#8221; represents organized Christianity (or, if you like, &#8220;Churchianity&#8221;) that many people go through, it has a broad path (many different denominations, Catholic and Protestant), and leads to destruction (burn-out from trying to &#8220;do God&#8217;s work&#8221; on Earth, or from straining to reach some mark of perfection that will never be obtained). On the other hand, the &#8220;narrow gate&#8221; represents simply following Christ, which has a straitened path (no denominations, just a yearning to be Christ-like), and only a few go down this road to find life (&#8221;joy unspeakable and full of glory&#8221;, the &#8220;peace that passes all understanding&#8221;).</p>
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		<title>By: John T.</title>
		<link>http://boldgrace.com/2008/06/23/it-might-surprise-you-to-know-2/#comment-3073</link>
		<author>John T.</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 01:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey marco aka don........or something like that :P


The blind assumption was not of your life but of your few words.........and unfortunately thats all I have to go by. Mind you it wouldnt be the first time I have erred, nor will it be my last.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey marco aka don&#8230;&#8230;..or something like that <img src='http://boldgrace.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The blind assumption was not of your life but of your few words&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;and unfortunately thats all I have to go by. Mind you it wouldnt be the first time I have erred, nor will it be my last.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://boldgrace.com/2008/06/23/it-might-surprise-you-to-know-2/#comment-3072</link>
		<author>Don</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am the 3rd Don I guess, aka Donald Marco Albright, named after my Dad, a man full of that live giving spirit. I have used my middle name in the past and it is what I commonly go by, but for fun sometimes I use my first name here and there on the interweb :) 
Some of you guys might remember me from the old bold grace site as well as christminusmeplusnothing. For the sake of non confusion I will stick with my middle name Marco from here on out, sorry for the confusion,

peace to you all'

Marco (aka Don A)

also John T way to make blind assumptions of my life, you missed the whole point my friend, I have a (true) story for you that just might help you see what I am trying to share (its in a Watchman Nee book I think, I'll dig it out later and post it here) right now I need to go cycle 45k.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am the 3rd Don I guess, aka Donald Marco Albright, named after my Dad, a man full of that live giving spirit. I have used my middle name in the past and it is what I commonly go by, but for fun sometimes I use my first name here and there on the interweb <img src='http://boldgrace.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Some of you guys might remember me from the old bold grace site as well as christminusmeplusnothing. For the sake of non confusion I will stick with my middle name Marco from here on out, sorry for the confusion,</p>
<p>peace to you all&#8217;</p>
<p>Marco (aka Don A)</p>
<p>also John T way to make blind assumptions of my life, you missed the whole point my friend, I have a (true) story for you that just might help you see what I am trying to share (its in a Watchman Nee book I think, I&#8217;ll dig it out later and post it here) right now I need to go cycle 45k.</p>
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