Comments on: Moment of Truth! http://boldgrace.com/2008/07/04/moment-of-truth/ It's more wonderful than you can imagine! Wed, 07 Jan 2009 19:22:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2 By: Cliff http://boldgrace.com/2008/07/04/moment-of-truth/#comment-3237 Cliff Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:52:26 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2008/07/04/moment-of-truth/#comment-3237 You are so right Julie. I think sometimes our greatest challenge as adults comes from the desire to know but the reality is in our limited state of being we can never know enough to judge someone else. I think my greatest peace came from giving up and truly letting God be God. You are so right Julie. I think sometimes our greatest challenge as adults comes from the desire to know but the reality is in our limited state of being we can never know enough to judge someone else. I think my greatest peace came from giving up and truly letting God be God.

]]> By: Julie Godsey http://boldgrace.com/2008/07/04/moment-of-truth/#comment-3235 Julie Godsey Sun, 13 Jul 2008 22:52:12 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2008/07/04/moment-of-truth/#comment-3235 Cliff, when you mention in response to a question about judging, you simply state " When I make judgments about them I still fully believe God accepts them because He knows their entire story and their individual paths" That just seems to perfectly put the whole issue into a nutshell. Only God knows. It's like being a child and just KNOWING that your parents will always do what is right for you. That beautiful simplicity. That peace of knowing that all is right in your own world. Thanks so much for sharing. Peace, Julie Cliff, when you mention in response to a question about judging, you simply state ” When I make judgments about them I still fully believe God accepts them because He knows their entire story and their individual paths” That just seems to perfectly put the whole issue into a nutshell. Only God knows. It’s like being a child and just KNOWING that your parents will always do what is right for you. That beautiful simplicity. That peace of knowing that all is right in your own world.
Thanks so much for sharing. Peace, Julie

]]> By: Cliff http://boldgrace.com/2008/07/04/moment-of-truth/#comment-3189 Cliff Sat, 05 Jul 2008 18:49:21 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2008/07/04/moment-of-truth/#comment-3189 Thanks Don R Thanks Don R

]]> By: Don R http://boldgrace.com/2008/07/04/moment-of-truth/#comment-3185 Don R Sat, 05 Jul 2008 16:02:56 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2008/07/04/moment-of-truth/#comment-3185 Iloved this one, Cliff. Thanks for reminding us. Iloved this one, Cliff. Thanks for reminding us.

]]> By: Cliff http://boldgrace.com/2008/07/04/moment-of-truth/#comment-3179 Cliff Fri, 04 Jul 2008 23:08:58 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2008/07/04/moment-of-truth/#comment-3179 SocietyVs said: "maybe the real good news in that scenario is - God likes us so much." I truly believe He does like us that much but because of our own warped view of who we are we just can't see it and that's where bold grace can come into our lives and give us a clearer vision. Thanks for a great comment SocietyVs!!!! SocietyVs said: “maybe the real good news in that scenario is - God likes us so much.”

I truly believe He does like us that much but because of our own warped view of who we are we just can’t see it and that’s where bold grace can come into our lives and give us a clearer vision.
Thanks for a great comment SocietyVs!!!!

]]> By: SocietyVs http://boldgrace.com/2008/07/04/moment-of-truth/#comment-3178 SocietyVs Fri, 04 Jul 2008 21:53:19 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2008/07/04/moment-of-truth/#comment-3178 Great post - I love it! "When I make judgments about them I still fully believe God accepts them because He knows their entire story and their individual paths." (Cliff) I agree 100%. I think that is the problem with some church folk - they are making some fairly mean judgments about the person and not about ideas anymore...in a weird sense...they play God? I tend to think as you do here - God loves us all and that doesn't change from Adam to Steve. God is accepting of them all - and this is something we also need to show others around us - they are worth a lot. It is something I strive to do for others for all the years of my life - to let people know they are valued. This lacks in church focus - I think your critique is right on the money in this sense. I find the church wants to fight over the dumbest things - like the worth of a human being - usually that goes down the path of God 'disliking' us so much...maybe the real good news in that scenario is - God likes us so much. At least, that's what I try to do for others - if I am worth something to God - I figure all are. Great post - I love it!

“When I make judgments about them I still fully believe God accepts them because He knows their entire story and their individual paths.” (Cliff)

I agree 100%. I think that is the problem with some church folk - they are making some fairly mean judgments about the person and not about ideas anymore…in a weird sense…they play God?

I tend to think as you do here - God loves us all and that doesn’t change from Adam to Steve. God is accepting of them all - and this is something we also need to show others around us - they are worth a lot. It is something I strive to do for others for all the years of my life - to let people know they are valued. This lacks in church focus - I think your critique is right on the money in this sense.

I find the church wants to fight over the dumbest things - like the worth of a human being - usually that goes down the path of God ‘disliking’ us so much…maybe the real good news in that scenario is - God likes us so much. At least, that’s what I try to do for others - if I am worth something to God - I figure all are.

]]> By: Cliff http://boldgrace.com/2008/07/04/moment-of-truth/#comment-3177 Cliff Fri, 04 Jul 2008 17:42:42 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2008/07/04/moment-of-truth/#comment-3177 You are so welcome Marco and I really appreciate your added insights into this very bold grace that God is inviting us all to embrace and live by. I by no means feel as if I understand it all but I think I understand enough to feel the peace that Christ spoke of. You are so welcome Marco and I really appreciate your added insights into this very bold grace that God is inviting us all to embrace and live by. I by no means feel as if I understand it all but I think I understand enough to feel the peace that Christ spoke of.

]]> By: Marco http://boldgrace.com/2008/07/04/moment-of-truth/#comment-3176 Marco Fri, 04 Jul 2008 16:39:37 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2008/07/04/moment-of-truth/#comment-3176 I am loving the theme of this, part of the Christ experience is one that calls us all into equality and oneness, even with the less desirables of this world, especially so.This isn't a judgment call, its just there are some nasty acting people on this planet to say the least, could grace be so bold that these less desirables become the more desirables? I think so. When the love in our hearts overwhelms our tendencies to be critical and judgmental I feel we have entered in and are participating in the kingdom Jesus called God. We know ourselves and part of this grace expression must include this, not just knowing, but embracing the limits of our humanity, accepting self for who self is, for who self was and is becoming. amen, thanks Cliff for a very thoughtful posting, Marco I am loving the theme of this, part of the Christ experience is one that calls us all into equality and oneness, even with the less desirables of this world, especially so.This isn’t a judgment call, its just there are some nasty acting people on this planet to say the least, could grace be so bold that these less desirables become the more desirables? I think so.

When the love in our hearts overwhelms our tendencies to be critical and judgmental I feel we have entered in and are participating in the kingdom Jesus called God.

We know ourselves and part of this grace expression must include this, not just knowing, but embracing the limits of our humanity, accepting self for who self is, for who self was and is becoming.

amen, thanks Cliff for a very thoughtful posting,

Marco

]]> By: Cliff http://boldgrace.com/2008/07/04/moment-of-truth/#comment-3175 Cliff Fri, 04 Jul 2008 16:39:04 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2008/07/04/moment-of-truth/#comment-3175 Wonderful comments on this day of Freedom's celebration and I too wish only the best for all of God's glorious creatures and their individual journeys of learning to be what they were created for. Wonderful comments on this day of Freedom’s celebration and I too wish only the best for all of God’s glorious creatures and their individual journeys of learning to be what they were created for.

]]> By: Connie Lard http://boldgrace.com/2008/07/04/moment-of-truth/#comment-3174 Connie Lard Fri, 04 Jul 2008 16:06:00 +0000 http://boldgrace.com/2008/07/04/moment-of-truth/#comment-3174 Jesus, in the hours before his death, prayed that we would be one. Anything which detracts from that oneness is a slap in his face. When there are people who resist the idea that we are one, who hold grudges or prejudices or self-righteous attitudes, then the Spirit is quenched and the face of Christ is disfigured in the world. As you said, Cliff, when we examine ourselves and face our own "moment of truth," it is sure to make us more open and loving to our fellow humans, wherever we may find them. That is when we come to know what real freedom is all about. Happy Independence Day to all of you! May you have a day of glorious celebration with the people who are near and dear to you! Jesus, in the hours before his death, prayed that we would be one. Anything which detracts from that oneness is a slap in his face. When there are people who resist the idea that we are one, who hold grudges or prejudices or self-righteous attitudes, then the Spirit is quenched and the face of Christ is disfigured in the world. As you said, Cliff, when we examine ourselves and face our own “moment of truth,” it is sure to make us more open and loving to our fellow humans, wherever we may find them. That is when we come to know what real freedom is all about.

Happy Independence Day to all of you! May you have a day of glorious celebration with the people who are near and dear to you!

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