Hell Greater Than Redemption ?

The majority of Christianity believes that Hell is greater than The Redemption that took place on The Cross. Listen as Mike and Glenn from The Gospel Revolution Webcast discuss it.

Geo Jan 23rd 2010 05:21 pm Audio, Contributors, Geo, Grace, Peace, The Cross, Video 31 Comments Trackback URI Comments RSS

31 Responses to “Hell Greater Than Redemption ?”

  1. Dougon 23 Jan 2010 at 5:33 pm link comment

    The beauty of your pictures bro, is only exceeded by the message.
    lOVE YA BRO….Go Colts

  2. Geoon 23 Jan 2010 at 5:43 pm link comment

    Doug
    Those pics start out at Prisilla Beach, MA. then to Frisco Pier Cape Hatteras, NC. Then to Jim Beam Distillery in Kentucky then to Lake Erie, PA. Then to The Mutual of Omaha Zoo in Omaha, NE. Then to Juno Beach Pier in Juno, FL. Then to Brady, TX. Then ending in Cape Hatteras on the soundside with the fisherman coming home for the night.

    All were and are GREAT places that I hope I can visit again someday.

    Peace
    Geo

  3. Dougon 23 Jan 2010 at 6:11 pm link comment

    Many years ago at about the age of 11 or 12 I was baptized in an Alabama river by a good man named Charlie Coil. If my recollection is clear that old river was kind of a muddy red. I have always been a tidbit concerned that my baptism didn’t take because since that day ive been known to smoke a few cigarettes, steal a few bottles of grape Nehi, drink a little beer, and of course I could always wiggle my ass on a dance floor better then Elvis.
    So I have been thinking lately that might need to get it done again. I mean hollycrapoli I don’t want to be doing this happy dance im doing only to find out that Charlie didn’t do something right and my bony ass is going to hell.
    I decided the first thing I need to know is whether that Alabama river water was good enough, and I found out that some use sacramental water, some use holly water, and the poor use bottled water with a little prayer or river water. Then I found out some think you need to be dipped other say splashed or sprinkled, and ill bet there is some that will just hose me down. I also found out that some use a little prayer that just speaks of the father and others think you must also include the son and the holly ghost.
    As you can figure by know im more confused then I was to start with and im thinking either I will take a chance on Charlie, or just get them all done. I mean really it might be easier just to go to Hell then figure all this out!
    Then I read this about an outlaw that probably hadn’t had a bath much less a baptism.

    Luke 23
    39One of the criminals who hung there hurled insults at him: “Aren’t you the Christ? Save yourself and us!”
    40But the other criminal rebuked him. “Don’t you fear God,” he said, “since you are under the same sentence? 41We are punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong.”
    42Then he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.[f]”
    43Jesus answered him, “I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise.”
    I’m kinda thinkin ill just take a shower, and keep dancing my happy dance.
    Love the truth

  4. Geoon 23 Jan 2010 at 6:23 pm link comment

    Doug
    That passage Christianity uses to say that the one who challenged Jesus will go Hell. But it does not say that. The reason Jesus did not tell them both that they would be in Paradise is because only one asked! You have not because you ask not. But I can GUARANTEE you that when both opened their eyes on the other side Jesus was their to greet them BOTH!

    Peace
    Geo

  5. Dougon 23 Jan 2010 at 6:34 pm link comment

    IM WITH YOU ON THAT BRO…i only know one God, and he is a God of love.
    Love always

  6. Dougon 23 Jan 2010 at 6:40 pm link comment

    OK, Freaky girl (bg#4), are all my bgs clear on who they are now? Can i get a sound off.. A big “hell yeah” from each of you?
    LOVE BUD

  7. Dougon 23 Jan 2010 at 6:57 pm link comment

    If you dont like your nic whining wont change it, but they are not tattooed on my heart, and the master and queen of secret day will consider your whimpering request only if MC FEELS IT IS WORTH FOR US TO HEAR.
    LOVE MY ANGELS
    bud

  8. Dougon 23 Jan 2010 at 11:23 pm link comment

    There is a beauty in growing old that the youthful feel but dont recognize till the beauty is felt in its waning weakness. There is a beauty in growing old that cant be sensed till all five senses are barely felt., there is a beauty in growing old that the brilliants can only be seen by eyes that are fogged, there is a beauty in growing old that can only be touched in the tender feel of love with gnarled fingers, there is a beauty in growing old that can only taste the sweetness of life with a pallet of savoring desire, there is a beauty of growing old that can only smell the essence of desire in the truth of love, and there is a beauty of growing old that lets you hear love with deaf ears.

    There is a beauty in growing closer to the love you have always felt.

    love Doug

  9. Dougon 23 Jan 2010 at 11:31 pm link comment

    MC SAYS: Its better to have diarrhea for a lifetime then to be full of shit anytime.

    Anybody got a good recipe for cat stew?
    Dam cat

  10. Dougon 23 Jan 2010 at 11:45 pm link comment

    The wiggle in your want, the whine in your whisper,the wag in your wane, is held in your next heartbeat.
    love always

  11. Dougon 24 Jan 2010 at 12:18 am link comment

    I sit here tonight and i think about my uncle Jack, my Uncle Joe, My Dad, my brother Cliff, and all the others that have danced before us, and all that will dance after us as the preachers of Gods love, and i wonder what they would want me to tell you… WHAT IF I WAS THE LAST PREACHER YOU EVER HEARD?
    What would Uncle Joe, Uncle jack, my Dad, my brother, want the last preacher you ever hear to tell you?
    I think before they left this life some would say, Dougie tell them to repent, some would say Dougie tell them to accept jesus as there savior, some would say Dougins stop drinking and preaching, and some would say keep telling them there loved bro, and I THINK THEY ARE ALL SAYING NOW TO KEEP TELLING THEM THAT THERE LOVED, unconditionally.
    But what do i know, im a grape soda stealing outlaw, but for some reason i feel there arms around me anyway.
    Love always

  12. Dougon 24 Jan 2010 at 12:22 am link comment

    where is my freakin …HELL YEAH .. from my BGs?
    dam your bony asses
    BUD

  13. Dougon 24 Jan 2010 at 12:54 am link comment

    There is a reason im tough on the youth. Its not because im old and think your stupid.. well… maybe a little, but its mostly because i know you think you already know all there is to know, and i know that you ain’t got a clue, and the reason i know that is because im still working on it, and im closer to the truth then you are.

    Robert McCloskey might have said it better this way:

    “I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I’m not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.”

    But what I mean is for you to look deeper then you ever thought you could,and believe what you thought you could never understand is a whisper away in the heart you haven’t heard.
    Then maybe again i need to listen to Dad saying “Dougins stop drinking and preaching”

    Goodnight friends

  14. Dougon 24 Jan 2010 at 1:08 am link comment

    MC SAYS: Its better to die in the wings of a crazy chicken then to dance for eternity and never hear the cluck of love.

    Can you get a permit from the U S department of agriculture to make fertilizer out of cats?
    Dam cat

  15. Dougon 24 Jan 2010 at 1:19 am link comment

    A sheared bed of commitment, is a lonely bed. A sheared bed of need , is a cold bed. A sheared bed of desire, is a confused bed. A sheared bed of fear, is a bed of nightmares, but a bed of love is not sheared but owned by those who sleep in it.
    Love Doug

  16. Dougon 24 Jan 2010 at 1:26 am link comment

    if i dont get a hell yeah BUD, im comin after 7 BGs and gonna give a big ass whoopin.. You know i will!
    love BUD

  17. Dougon 24 Jan 2010 at 2:00 am link comment

    My last thought will be of any words i share with you, or that Mike, Cliff or any other preacher you listen to shares with you. THERE IS NO MAN THAT CAN GIVE YOU THE TRUTH, but the truth is in your heart and it always say the same thing over and over, and it says it to every heart that listens, and the message is you are loved unconditionaly for all eternity.

    “Whatever is only almost true is quite false, and among the most dangerous of errors, because being so near truth, it is the more likely to lead astray.”

    - Henry Ward Beecher

    God loves you.. is more then almost true.. it is absolutly true, and only man would let you think that you are only near that truth.
    love always

  18. Angieon 25 Jan 2010 at 2:39 pm link comment

    Love ya Uncle Doug. I don’t believe though that just because you have lived longer on this Earth that you are closer to understanding than I am. Maybe some of us accept the fact that we ain’t got a clue, maybe we’ve stopped searching and started just being. I don’t need to know the answers because maybe there are none. Anyhoo-
    HELL YEAH!

  19. Dougon 25 Jan 2010 at 4:56 pm link comment

    I love you to Bony legs, and i love the fact that you acknowledge that you are clueless of the truth of all Gods mysteries. It is those that believe they know the truth that i fear. As to whether you are more clueless then i am has little meaning because it is not a competition but it is an awesome opportunity to feel the beauty of all of Gods creation, and i think you are right when you say some need to stop searching and just start feeling it.
    I also love your youthful denial that years of experience offers wisdom. It is the same denial that your children will offer you, and my children have offered me , and all of GOD children offer him from time to time, and i dont say this because im old and think your stupid… well… maybe a little…just kidding BL.
    love Uncle Doug

  20. geoon 25 Jan 2010 at 6:16 pm link comment

    Angie wrote:
    Maybe some of us accept the fact that we ain’t got a clue, maybe we’ve stopped searching and started just being.

    RIGHT ON!!!!!!!!!!! This is one of the biggest log jams in christian thought.
    Most christians have a need to “know” and to have it all line up. Well I’m here to tell whoever will listen… IT DON’T ALWAYS LINE UP!! Get over it and start to live. When you do amazing things, places and people will come into your life!!! This website is proof of that!!

    Peace
    Geo

    Hey Doug,

    HELL YEAH!!!!!!!!YAHOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  21. Dougon 25 Jan 2010 at 6:38 pm link comment

    dont egg em on GEO, THELL GANG UP ON ME…. LOL

  22. Dougon 25 Jan 2010 at 10:37 pm link comment

    I think the END IS NEAR, the RAPTURE is coming, JESUS will return soon, are you ready for the Armageddon, the tribulations, Are you ready!
    I know that many of you are scared shitless with any one of those words, Rapture, Armageddon, tribulations, but you got to tell your preacher that you aren’t afraid, cause your one of the good guys that gets lifted up to heaven,, right? But ill bet there are some of you that are saying hollicrapolie with just even the mention of them words, im thinking I might be covered in boils or ate by spiders and stuff.
    You have lived your whole life being told god loves you in one breath, and then told in the next you might be punished like nothing you can imagine. Don’t make much since dose it?
    One of the great psychologists our life time was a man named Carl Jung and he developed a method of analyzing the truth in your heart with something called word association.
    The words I just used:
    Rapture
    Armageddon
    Second coming of Jesus
    Tribulation
    Are they words you associate with celebration, wonderful, blessing, grateful, LOVE?

    Shouldn’t the second coming of JESUS be something your all excited over?Set the table put on an extra plate kind of thing? I’m just a good ole boy, but if there someone coming to my house that’s gonna leave spiders or boils on me, I don’t want to know that kind of person, and the Jesus I believe in wouldn’t do that. To anybody.
    This what Carl Jung says:

    I have treated many hundreds of patients. Among those in the second half of life – that is to say, over 35 – there has not been one whose problem in the last resort was not that of finding a religious outlook on life.

    Sad don’t ya think?….
    I don’t know enough about the bible to tell you if Jesus is or isn’t coming back again, but I know that if he is it won’t be to hurt you, it will be to love you. I kinda think he is coming back, and I think he is doing it one heart at a time, and it my take a 1000 years, but whose counting.

    Since the death of jesus there have been 220 valid predictions of his second coming, tonight there will be 223 because i believe he is already here and he is in my heart. ITS COOL how i can right my own bible…Dont ya think?
    Love always

  23. Dougon 25 Jan 2010 at 10:52 pm link comment

    Even though Geo tried to step in and protect one of you with a heartfelt HELL YEAH, there is still six of you that im waiting on, and im taking names. You better believe if i dont get it you will get an ass whoopin, and im not above water boarding your bony ass next summer on secret day!
    Love BUD

  24. Dougon 25 Jan 2010 at 11:01 pm link comment

    What the hell dose the B…in Bud stand for MINDY?
    BE NICE!
    YOU KNOW YOU MY FAVORITE…
    Love uncle Doug

  25. Dougon 25 Jan 2010 at 11:14 pm link comment

    MC SAYS: It is better to drowned a kitten that has feed on the breast of a coyote then to try and convert it.

    only God can love this Dam cat

  26. Dougon 25 Jan 2010 at 11:24 pm link comment

    The understanding, the purpose, the reason of our existence will never be known in our minds, but can be seen in the hearts of our children felt in the rhythm of there breath, and touched by the truth in there eyes.

    “If there is anything that we wish to change in the child, we should first examine it and see whether it is not something that could better be changed in ourselves”.
    Carl Jung
    Love Doug

  27. Dougon 25 Jan 2010 at 11:45 pm link comment

    Some of the most beautiful words i have ever heard were from Mindy when she wrote this.

    WE ARE NOT HUMAN BEINGS GOING THROUGH A TEMPORARY SPIRITUAL EXPERIENCE.
    WE ARE SPIRITUAL BEINGS GOING THROUGH A TEMPORARY HUMAN EXPERIENCE

    The walls we walk between as we dance our dance can offer us so much pain, but our pain is only held within them, because our spirit has no walls.
    I know this because ive looked in the eyes of my Sis, and i saw no walls.
    Love Doug

  28. Dougon 25 Jan 2010 at 11:57 pm link comment

    MY LAST THOUGHT will be on the second coming of JESUS… WHY ..

    Dam he did enough the first time,,, didnt he?.. maybe hes just coming back to straighten our dumb asses out… like im gonna do on secret day!

    there is nothing to fear but man.
    love the truth

  29. Dougon 26 Jan 2010 at 12:24 am link comment

    you can want for love for a lifetime
    you can give love with every breath
    you can cry for love with every tear in your eye
    you can beg for love till your knees bleed
    you can pay for love till your broke
    or you can feel love with your next heartbeat

  30. geoon 26 Jan 2010 at 6:30 am link comment

    Hey Doug
    About The “SECOND” Coming, didn’t that already happen?
    He came once from the womb of woman. Then He came a SECOND time when He rose from the grave!! Seems to me like He Finished EVERYTHING at The Cross and His Resurrection! Now if He wants to come a THIRD time that’s fine with me. But as I see it Christianity already missed the “SECOND” Coming. The same way they don’t understand that this is a “NEW” Earth since The Resurrection.

    Oh Happy Day!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Peace
    Geo

  31. Mindyon 27 Jan 2010 at 2:37 pm link comment

    Sorry I have missed most of this up until now. Been busy…really busy. Anyway, I agree with Ang. Some of us are content with what is. I am what I am and I am all that I am. HELL FREAKIN YEAH!!!!
    Am I big girl #4? Am I really the freakin farter?? Dad said that when I was little he would fart and I would come runnin to smell it…I think he lied. I am known for lighting my farts so I can see flames and hear the explotion…guess I am the farter?
    “The miracle is not to fly in the air, or to walk on the water, but to walk on the earth.” ~Chinese Proverb

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