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Redemption is free to mankind and it has been bestowed on ALL Mankind for all of time and eternity. Redemption is of the spirit that part of us that will return to the God of all who created us all. Redemption is given and is of benefit to all who accept it and to all who reject it. Redemption requires nothing of us. Neither a yea or a nay. And it is my belief that this Redemption came through the man Jesus The Christ.

Salvation on the other hand is NOT A FREE GIFT. Salvation is not of the spirit as Redemption is. Salvation is of the soul i.e. the mind, the will and the emotions that are in the here and now. Salvation can be permanent (lifetime) or it can be temporary and lost on a moment by moment basis.

So what is the price and cost of Salvation to the soul i.e. the mind, the will and the emotions?
The cost is the faith you have in your personal faith. The price is the belief you have in your belief. The only way Salvation of the soul i.e. the mind, the will and the emotions can be permanent is if you give up believing and trusting in your faith and belief in God! You must come to the end of your personal faith and belief in God in order to find real faith and that is not of yourself but of Christ. The requirement for you to believe and have faith ended at The Cross. And as well it should have because as Jesus said if you faith was only as big as a mustard seed you could tell a mountain to throw itself into the ocean and it would obey. The church teaches that Jesus wanted us to have our own faith. The truth is He was teaching us that we had NO FAITH AND NEVER WOULD!!! He at the Cross ENDED the requirement to believe and included ALL in Redemption. And when we know without a doubt that our Redemption is sealed and that all of mankind’s Redemption is sealed then we can come to the point of saying with confidence, " I NO LONGER BELIEVE IN MY BELIEF AND I NO LONGER HAVE FAITH"! And we will be saved!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GOOD NEWS

Selah
Geo

Hello friends,

Unless someone objects, I’d like to delete the BoldGrace Forum. It was a good idea, but probably redundant since folks can just post on the blog itself. It’s really not being used, and it’s becoming somewhat of a maintenance problem having to deal with all the spammers who are trying to create user accounts so they can flood the board with their junk. So, unless I hear that you want to keep it, I’ll plan on deleting it one week from today.

Thanks,

Bruce

Only 6 Days left until our annual  PIG ROAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

UPDATE: CLICK HERE  to see pics of Pig Roast

ALL who read and contribute here on Bold Grace are invited to our house next Saturday September 5, 2009 to share in one of the MOST wonderful days you will experience this year! We will have of course THE PIG! THE CHICKENS, BEEF BRISKET and wonderful side dishes made by the best chefs and cooks the WORLD has to offer! We will also have a wide assortment of your favorite beverages. And if you happen to have too many of the assorted beverages you can stay over at our house. We will have as they say a real BLOWOUT! Also we will have our friend and brother Cliff Hazelbaker of Bold Grace here!!!!!!!!! Cliff will be providing a secret ingredient for the PIG ROAST!

Here is a link to some pictures of a past Pig Roast www.boldgrace.com/pics/pigroast/

If you need directions or more info I can be contacted here boldgrace.com/contact/

CLICK GEO and email me.

We look forward to seeing ALL!

Peace

Geo

Update on my travel thru the valley: 

I have made my decision to allow this process to go forward in its perfection just as I always knew it would.  I am now firmly convinced that a perfect utopia has never been out of our reach, from the moment of our birth, until we have taken our last breath.  I believe his perfect plan is so strongly based upon the people he chooses to bring into each of our lives and oh how he chose the perfect ones for me!  My family, my friends from youth, and all of the Bold Grace people who have come my way for years.  I feel especially indebted to Mike Williams, Geo Howell, Bruce, Steve, Mike Gross, Connie Laird, Lisa Perry, and a whole bunch of people who do not even know how they have affected my life.  I hope they will keep sharing their heart to a world that needs their heart, not a doctrine, not a church, not a religion, but their heart.   All I have ever tried to share was my heart.  I want to mention Kevin Beck, for his pioneering work in the area of the human heart.  It is the new great frontier!  Bruce is already there.  Hear what he has to say, every word he speaks is like that of God.

January 13th 1952, I was born and took my first breath, and i entered into perfection. I entered into life with a perfect god, and a perfect process to take me to the end. Now after 57+ years I have been able to observe that plan of perfection. And it has been glorious. Perfection is a state of being in a perfection faith connected to a perfect Creator. When we are connected to that state of being nothing that comes next will surprise us, and we will live in a constant state of peace and security that cannot be touched by insecurity and circumstances of what we think this world brings to us, because perfection cannot be threatened, imperfection does not exist and there-in lies the true peace of god. We find that perfection, we find our beginning moment once again and we are at peace.

Clouds don’t seem to care where they’re going. They are content to follow the directions of the spirit of the air, enjoying the journey as they make their way to their purpose. Though they are unaware of their desination or their purpose as they travel along, they find themselves eventually called upon to join forces and deliver liquid life to the earth. Often exhausted, they whither and die, having given all of themselves in doing their work. But, as those clouds die, others are reborn from their seed to carry on the purpose.

Without Faith it is impossible to please God.

My thoughts on this coming soon.

I strongly recommend the book "REINCARNATION FOR THE CHRISTIAN" by Quincy Howe Jr.

I don’t recommend it because I want or even care if others believe in reincarnation or NOT.  I recommend it because it offers people of honest thought the chance to exercise their free thinking ability.

You may say "Hey Cliff, I already do that".  But do you really or have you just bought into to what the Christian experts tell you is the correct history of Christianity.

According to Howe and many others there was quite the discussion going in the first five centuries about the possibility of reincarnation. 

Origen of Alexandria was born around 184 AD and died in 253, probably as the direct result of his imprisonment & torture for his faith.  He was a dedicated teacher,a faithful follower of Jesus Christ, and a strong believer in reincarnation.

You see like many since the early times of the church anyone who dared to have an original thought was persecuted and often put to death unless they fell in line with the accepted wisdom of the day.

Did you also know that during the first five centuries the predominant thought was universal salvation for all until the powers that be decided they needed a HELL to keep people in line.  

There have been many thoughtful and honest christians of thought down through the centuries that  believed in reincarnation but did not dare share their hearts out of fear.

What I like about this book is that Howe doesn’t try to prove anything.  He just shares some of the thoughts of great men of our past that believed in reincarnation and why.

The day of closed minds ended with the internet.  Now, anyone who really wants to investigate the questions of their heart can do so without feeling the fear that comes with doubting the status quo. 

Allow me to quote a few words from the back cover of this interesting book:

Can one believe in the concept of reincarnation and remain a Christian.  The answer according to Dr Howe (a christian scholar) is: ABSOLUTELY!

To back up his claim, Dr. Howe cites chapter and verse from the bible that clearly indicates an understanding and acceptance of the rebirth theory.

Dr. Quincy Howe, Jr. is a graduate of Harvard, Columbia and Princeton Universities.  He received his Ph.D. while at Princeton. 

All I want people who read this post to do is to realize that we have all been lied to over and over through the centuries by those who would force us to believe or be lost.  God gave all of us wonderful minds and hearts to help us find our way, and I don’t think He ever intended for a only a few to make all the decisions on matters of FAITH.

I’m sure many Christians out there will say that they now have the liberty to really speak their mind in church, and I really hope that is becoming more true, but I still think we have a long way to go. 

I do have great hope for the future of open minded Christians because with the age of the internet there will be NO going back to the dark ages where only a few decide what we should believe.

If you don’t believe in reincarnation now, don’t worry about it, YOU WILL BELIEVE IN IT IN THE NEXT LIFE………ha ha